How Not to Manage a LinkedIn Group

Normally I’m not one to call people/companies/organizations out for things that they do to me. I generally handle things behind the scenes if I think I’ve been wronged and move on with my life but in this specific instance I decided that it was worth posting about because it could potentially happen to any of us.

Here is the situation. For the past few years I have been an outspoken fan of Fusion Productions DigitalNow conference. In my humble opinion it’s one of the best organized and programmed conferences that I have had the opportunity and privilege to attend in my career and I always walked away energized, inspired and full of new ideas and flush with new contacts. I started off as a simple participant in 2007, but was among the very few who was tweeting the event live – long before Twitter was the in thing. Last year, I had the opportunity to sit on a panel led by Ben Martin and had a lot of fun doing so. To me going to a conference pales in comparison to being a real part of the conference.

2009 marked the first time in three years that I wasn’t able to attend/participate due to financial constraints but I still kept track of what was going on through the vibrant Twitterstream. It wasn’t as good as being there but thanks to my association friends I was able to glean some pretty useful and interesting nuggets of wisdom and I even got to see Ben do a live demo of Mogulus. I wasn’t there physically but I was definitely there in spirit.

At some point as I observed the festivities I was alerted to the DigitalNow LinkedIn group and decided that it was a good group to join on with because (a) it’s an a group that I share an affinity with and (b) I like keeping as many contact points as possible between my association colleagues and myself. The DN group was a bit different than many I have joined (and am actively participating in) on LinkedIn in that it was by approval only. A hurdle no doubt, but one that I felt was worth dealing with in order to gain access to what I perceived to be a great community of folks. In the rare instances where I have joined “by approval” groups on LinkedIn, I have normally been approved within a few hours.

Aside: I only join groups where I either have a specific tie or think I can add value – groups to me are to be treated seriously and I don’t join them just to have a pretty badge associated with my name. That is pretty much my entire approach to social networking.

Well in this unique experience I didn’t get an immediate response. In fact my request to join went unanswered for quite a while. Finally this morning I did receive a response and here is what it said:

Julie McKown has sent you a message.
Date: 4/22/2009
Subject: [DigitalNow Community] Your DigitalNow Community request
Group: DigitalNow Community

Dear David:

Thank you for your interest in joining the DigitalNow Community group on LinkedIn.

DigitalNow is the name of an annual conference produced by Fusion Productions and Disney Institute. It was started as a way to provide Association Executives and Senior leaders with a forum for private conversations about issues of import. The expectation of our audience – and of our LinkedIn group members – is that we provide a place for them to have those conversations in a non-sales environment.

Therefore, we are only able to extend invitations to participate to members of our audience, past and present speakers and presenters, and a small group of Resource Center partners who participate in our conference. (For information on how you can become a DigitalNow Resource Center partner, please contact us at digitalnow@fusionproductions.com

We can offer you other ways to take part in our community. We invite you to follow us on Twitter.com (our user name is DigitalNow), and you may also submit articles of interest to our blog at DigitalNowblog.com.

Again, we thank you for your interest in the DigitalNow Community group.

Sincerely,
The DigitalNow Team

Imagine my surprise in reading this response this morning. What I had expected was a warm welcome from Julie. And while she may not remember we interacted pretty regularly in advance of last years conference and I even went out of my way to track her down in person to say thank you for her help. However, what I received instead was pretty disappointing. Here is how I interpreted it. I really don’t know who you are and instead of checking my past records to see if you have a legitimate reason for trying to join our group I am going to say no. However, because I am opportunistic I am going to see if I can increase our Twitter follower count by one and see if you are naive enough to give us some of your valuable content as great search engine fodder for our blog.

Had Julie done even a basic Google search (dave sabol digital now – check for yourself) she would have seen the first 6 or so entries related to me and my past participation in the conference. I literally went from a raving fan to a skeptical observer in the matter of the time that it took me to read the email.

Now this isn’t an attack on Julie per se. In my past interactions with her she was warm, kind and wonderful, but this experience left me doubting whether DigitalNow is an event I want to continue to support as an outspoken advocate. I personally know that I convinced a number of friends and colleagues to attend this years event and years past as well. Maybe they don’t want my support and involvement. That’s ok though because I am sure that there are many others who are willing to pay the $600 or $700 registration plus what ever it costs for transportation and accommodations for the privilege of attending such an event.

But that really isn’t the point. I think it’s the underlying message that I was provided with – that I wasn’t worthy and they had to monitor their membership closely to keep out the undesirable elements – is what really bothered me. I have a little more than a little knowledge on building effective and sustainable online communities, in fact that was my primary area of responsibility prior to leaving PMI. So I understand establishing criteria for membership in a specific group, but as a past participant, contributor and advocate who wasn’t allowed in I have to wonder how high that bar is set.

When creating an online community ask yourself a few questions prior to doing so: are you trying to create a community or a country club? More importantly how willing are you to alienate specific member groups to preserve the sanctity of others? If an online community can be found, chances are people, especially those who are enthusiastic about the topic, subject, company, etc., will want to join it. How do you act in a similar situation?

Definitely an interesting situation, one full of learning opportunities for everyone, and something that I will likely never forget…unfortunately.

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  • Hello, David:

    We’d like to thank you for your support of DigitalNow and Fusion Productions, and for the generous praise you offered in this post – in spite of your strong personal feelings around your recent experience with our LinkedIn community.

    I’d also like to apologize for any delay you experienced in receiving a response from us when you first submitted your LinkedIn request. As you can imagine, we are all hopping as we prepare and wrap-up DigitalNow. This was especially true this year as we worked up to the last minute to create and develop as many off-site participation methods as possible, in order to accommodate the many people who wanted to be with us in Orlando, but could not due to financial constraints.

    As you know, DigitalNow provides an opportunity for association executives to gather together and be part of an intimate community of their peers. Like any professional group, they have concerns and issues that are unique to them as CEOs, CFOs, CIOs, CTOs, Executive Directors, board members, and other executive positions.

    Each year we diligently seek to strike a balance that provides association executives with the dedicated forum they desire, while also including key staff members, critical service providers, and educators – all of whom make DigitalNow possible. That community composition is what creates such value for our attendees.

    We certainly are not trying to create a “country club” at DigitalNow. It is not a restricted community; it is a dedicated one. Our mission has always been to create an intimate association executive community experience for our attendees, and that is why they keep coming back year after year. Our advisory group and the community have encouraged us to remain committed to creating and maintaining that environment – and that is what has given DigitalNow its strength and longevity.

    We sincerely appreciate your participation in past DigitalNow conferences as a panel member and an accompanying staff member of PMI –a highly valued Fusion client with a long-standing DigitalNow presence. We do check our records as we respond to LinkedIn requests, and as we understand it, you are no longer with PMI; we also consulted your LinkedIn profile which states that you are currently an Adjunct Professor and Founder and CTO of a privately held company. We understand that positions change, and we described the nature of the community in our LinkedIn group description, with the intent of minimizing any misunderstandings.

    We honor your expertise and your past participation in DigitalNow – we in no way consider you an “undesirable element.” To the contrary – we invite you to follow us on Twitter (user name "digitalnow"), participate on our blog (http://www.digitalnowblog.com), download videos and slides from our conference web site (http://www.digitalnowlive.com), or subscribe to our YouTube network (http://www.fusionproductionsnetwork.com) or Flickr photostream.

    We’ve created myriad avenues for everyone to glean value and contribute in a way that is meaningful and easy for them. In fact, we’d be happy to set up a LinkedIn group on virtual communities or some other topic that is of unique and specific interest to you and your peers.

    Thank you for giving us this opportunity to address your concerns. At Fusion Productions, we value all of our relationships, and I personally strive to make my interactions with others respectful and considerate. As always, I am available to you at any time if you’d like to discuss this further. Just drop me a note at jmckown@fusionproductions.com.

    Sincerely,

    Julie McKown
    Fusion Productions
    DigitalNow Team member
  • Dave, I had the same reaction when I was rejected from the Digital Now LinkedIn group. Boo. After reading Julie's carefully crafted response, I can say that I do respect the right of their community to self-select its members. The choice to alienate a few folks on the fringe in favor of focusing on their core group is legitimate, if not my preference when I give strategic advice about outposts liked LinkedIn.

    And that goes back to your idea about creating online community versus a country club. The thing is, the community for Digital Now is online regardless of whether or not we're allowed into the LinkedIn group. By limiting entrance in such a public outpost, they are really limiting their ability to energize fans like us. Why make Twitter and Flickr open, but not LinkedIn? (I think I know the answer, I just don't buy it.)

    Plus, the community will police itself, so there's not much risk in letting us in. Just my two cents.
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